| 23 February 2009 |
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The world’s longest and highest par three, the signature hole at Legends Golf and Safari Resort, has its tee box poised at a dizzying height atop of Hanglip Mountain, 1 410 feet above the green and is only accessible by helicopter!
This means that the ball needs to travel an incredible 830 metres from tee to green (the total distance across and down)! Still, Padraig became the first-ever golfer to make par on this amazing hole in a playoff against Raphaël Jacquelin. Balls hit off the tee are estimated to have a 'hang time' of 26 seconds, so a little help is needed in keeping an eye on the white dimpled orb. With technology in the form of four separate cameras and tracking equipment, Padraig and Raphaël were able to track their tee shots and the flight of their balls, while ball watchers stood ready to point out where the balls had landed on the ‘map of Africa’ green. Your average thrill-seeking golfer can play this bizarre hole in addition to a round of 18 holes, or as an experience on its own, and a hole-in-one will earn you one million US dollars! Raphael and Padraig may not have posted holes-in-one, but they are two of 18 well-known golfers who have each designed one of the course's signature holes. Trevor Immelman, Bernard Langer, Colin Montgomerie, Justin Rose, Vijay Singh, K J Choi and Retief Goosen have each designed a hole at Legends. Legends Golf and Safari Resort was just one of the stands on display at the 2009 PGA Golf Show held last weekend at Country Club Johannesburg. For more on what was on offer at SA’s only Golf Show and to see which products won the Mole’s approval, click on the equipment tab at the top of the page and read ‘The Mole’s Golf Show Awards’.
Reader comments: (183)
•beatiful
i love it
posted by: jose on 2010/05/20
•Isn't as long as it sounds
On the score card it might say it is 900 yards, but it doesn't play that long. On average PGA golfers hit their drivers roughly 300 yards ( average ). Elevation is the major factor.
posted by: Keith on 2009/12/07
•oooooooooo
thats crazy
posted by: ********************** on 2009/09/24
•falling speed
The skydiver doesn't hit the ground at the same speed at which he jumped out of the plane, even though his weight stays exactly the same (unless he wet his pants on the way down). Why? Simply because a radical change in aerodynamics took place once he pulled the string. In this case weight or density had nothing to do with the difference in speed, but simply air resistance.
posted by: ben on 2009/09/01
•Disc golfer
I would love to throw a disc golf disc to that green
posted by: Captain Hulio on 2009/06/02
•PRICE
HOw much does it cost to play or be a member at this course.
posted by: SpEnCe on 2009/05/17
•Nice View
looks like a good place for a doublewide!
posted by: trash on 2009/05/15
•what?
what the helll
posted by: middleofthe roadto on 2009/05/12
•Golfers earn their pay
At least golfers earn their pay. If they don't perform-no pay. Unlike the prima donnas in other sports.
posted by: Sam on 2009/05/10
•DIvot
What kind of tool do you use to take out the divot if you get lucky and hit the green? A Shovel?
posted by: tj on 2009/05/08
•Liberal Morons
If you liberal idots thing that you have found the messiah in B. Obama wait until you really figure out whats happened to you! You then be hoping for the likes of George Bush will come back and rescue your sorry ... from whats yet to come your way. This is meant for those who can't think outside the box and need someone to spoon feed them!
posted by: Gary on 2009/05/05
•CONGRATULATIONS!!!
YOU ARE THE STUPIDEST GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH!
posted by: Greg E. on 2009/05/03
•900 yards??
My geometry is a bit rusty,, but what is the distance from the base of the cliff to the center of the green?? It has got to be in the 600 yard range,, Even with the elevated tee up on the cliff,, it would take a 600 plus yard drive to reach the Green?? Can anyone 'splain?? T.U.,, Jim J. in Suttons Bay
posted by: Jim Johnson on 2009/05/02
•If I were a Blackbird I could have hit it
but maybe not with a golf ball
posted by: Jack Hudson on 2009/04/28
•Charles and Hank
I could just see the look on Hank's face watching Charles yip thru this one.
posted by: Bob on 2009/04/24
•Unbelievable
I think the guy that wrote the first comment has Alzheimers because he went from golf to politics and the post doesn't even make any sense. Otherwise the ball travels a total of 900 yards, it isn't 900 yards "long". Looks like those guys were playing 3 or 5 woods so I would say it plays from 235-275 yards
posted by: easy on 2009/04/22
•Horse Bleep
Rules golf would not allow people in any playoff to hit practice balls on the hole they are playing. I seriously doubt Obama or his adversary McCain care much about the economy, afterall we as the american public just paid them 250k to run for office the last 2 years. Seriously, if two people are going to spend a billion dollars on a running for president than they don't care much about any economy.
posted by: Welsh on 2009/04/20
•MOTORIZED
LAST GAME I CADDIED I WALKED YEAR 1950... IMAGINE NOW HELICOPTER??? IF I COULD AFFORD THE GAME NOW THERE I COULD WOULD TAKE IT THE GAME AGAIN. WOULD I STILL GET THE $250 STIMULUS BREAK TO FORTUNATE A NINE IRON.. JOKE.. BOB2009/4/19
posted by: BOB B. on 2009/04/19
•OH SURE!
For those who think they could hit this green with a 7 iron, it is 807 meters tee to green. for those who don't understand the metric system, that translates to 907 YARDS!!! Good lick with a seven iron.
posted by: 21handicapper on 2009/04/17
• Lady Golfer
Surely you were kidding when you said golfers are the only role models out there. Boy are you a dreamer!!! Very few people even watch your big Golf games on TV,and certainly not the kids. Most teenagers don't even know who Tiger Woods is. Role models? I don't think so.
posted by: kyleb on 2009/04/17
•Cough splutter
Oh my, oh my. Welcome to Africa boys, it's just an entertaining golf hole, seperate from the actual course. No wonder you got your asses kicked the last time you arrived on the continent in your helicopters.Get a life, the elctions are over.
posted by: GdV on 2009/04/17
•TAXES?
You idiots and taxes!Obama is considering not extending the "BUSH tax-breaks" which went into effect shortly after 9/11.The reality**tax rates would rise from 3***or**from *36 to *39 for income over 250K. For someone making 350K that's an additional 3k in taxes. 450k an additional 6Kand so on. If tax breaks are so necessary for a recovery, how come they preceeded the present disaster.For someone making 750K a year to complain about an 15K in taxes a year is absurd. Count your blessings and keep on spending your money on luxuries like this in South Africa. Your money will eventually tricklee down to the rest of the poor slobs in the world.
posted by: Patriot for Common Sense on 2009/04/16
•Why
Why?
posted by: KenL on 2009/04/16
•aliens
shouldnt you yanks be arguing about conspriacy theories or shooting each other or something?
posted by: bush on 2009/04/15
•Give me a break!
How did a unique golf experience become a political discussion. Get over it! Looks like a great golf hole that would be a gas to play. I would definately play a mulligan until I got close to the green though! (By the way, you who are paying $40,000 in taxes and voted for Obama...get ready to pay $80,000 for the same stuff. Thanks for the vote!)
posted by: Tiger for President on 2009/04/15
•????
How the heck did everyone get from Golf to politics? Some of you need to find a better place to vent your built up anger at your fathers and go out and get laid to relieve some aggression! This is story about Golf**not "hey you Captian Opinion**what off-topic do you want to discuss**we do not care what you have to say or think cause you hear something or read it and take it for the truth**all politicians are corrupt and you have been brainwashed by other idiots that have nothing constructive to say about anything just how bad it is and how you know what they should have done.. where do you come off throwing stones when you live in your own glass house. Everyone always wants to skapegoat**I would never go to war with any of you**but I would tie your to my ball as I hit it off this cliff! :) GET A LIFE - SHUT UP WE DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK AND TRY WORKING ON A PROBLEM NOT SAYING "I TOLD YOU SOO!!"
posted by: SICK OF IDIOTS on 2009/04/14
•nice
reminds me of 18 at koele
posted by: gardner on 2009/04/14
•Hey morons!! This is golf, not politics...
Here, how about The Gettysburg Address?Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate ** we can not consecrate ** we can not hallow ** this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us ** that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion ** that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain ** that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom ** and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
posted by: Billy Baroo on 2009/04/13
•video works
scroll down to the second picture and that is the beginning of the video.
posted by: only a spectator on 2009/04/13
•Duhhhhh
I kept wondering why the ball was getting bigger?????Then it hit me...duhhh
posted by: Slow Mover on 2009/04/13
•Bushwacked
Hey Bushwacked,you have it all wrong too. I'ts not about the oil or we would have gotten some of it and we haven't! It is really all about protection positioning for our allies and including formost Isreal.
posted by: scott on 2009/04/12
•Negative people really do suck!!!
Bushwhacked - Blow me !!!Par 3 Hole - lay off Palin...you believe the piece of **** liberal press who crucified her unjustly.You both are *******s...par 3 *******s.
posted by: I-LOVE-GOLF on 2009/04/11
•Par 3 Hole
Palin thinks this hole is in the COUNTRY of Africa. Dim wit.
posted by: Chuck on 2009/04/11
•Now I'm Gay
All of this crazy political talk on a golf website has caused me to decide to adopt a gay lifestile. I don't think I will like it though so I'll probably change back pretty quickly. Does Ben Laden play golf? What about Barry O. Bama or the late Larry King?
posted by: Pedro "Dirty" Sanchez on 2009/04/11
•Bushwhacked
Do you Yanks know anything about the real World, all of you so-called commentators generally know f'ck all about the Middle East, Afghanistan etc, - so before you even continue to comment about Bush/ Howard as well by the way, get off ur **** and go see what really is going on in these countries. If you want to believe it was all about WMD's you've either got your head in the sand (forgive the pun), or you have been hiding under a Rock somewhere.WMD is total bull****, IT WAS ALL ABOUT OIL, you idiots, if you don't believe that, then why aren't you HAWKS invading North Korea now!Countries like Afghanistan, Iraq etc have for centuries been ruled by oligarchies, so what makes you idiots think you can change all that by trying to Democratise them. I spent over 6 years of my life living and working in Europe & the Middle East, so I learn't a great deal about other countries and cultures, but wherever I went, if I heard an American accent, I would just cringe, because genearlly it meant - here come the "Boy Scouts" again.I know and appreciate that there are many informed and intelligent Americans, I even have some as good friends, but please for the rest of you, get your heads out of your ****s, and go see what is really happening in the real World before you start pontificating about "God Bless America", because the truth is it is total bull****An Aussie who has never believed in the crap handed about by Bush, Cheney or Howard about WMD's, politicised democracy, or the so called American dream - have a look in your own backyard before you start trying to change the world!
posted by: Peter on 2009/04/11
•Last political comment?
So I guess when Colin Powell told the BBC "we were mistaken" about WMD, he knows less than you do. Got it.
posted by: drboba on 2009/04/10
•last political comment
Just so all of you Bush bashers know, your liberal media that you read and believe is feeding you a truckload of crap on a daily basis. Try www.BBC.co.uk or www.csmonitor.com for less biased news. Then enter 'Munitions Found in Iraq Renew Debate' in your google searchbox and see what your left leaning media is hiding. Interesting how this article slipped through from a paper such as the Post. But as an ex military man, trust me, there was more than just 500 canisters there...and still is. In all the time it took to get the green light to invade Iraq, don't you think the WMD might have drifted over the border to sympathetic groups in Saudi Arabia and Syria under cover of nighttime? Don't be so naive. You didn't know about the 500 canisters now did you? So, why would you think the bad guys wouldn't move the weapons to where we would not look. Duh.Anyway, two other awesome drops are #11 at Glen Abbey outside of Toronto and #12 at Weaver Ridge in Peoria, IL. I didn't hit either green.
posted by: G-man on 2009/04/09
•wasteful
there isn't anything that interesting about this golf hole. very wasteful gimmick at best.
posted by: Paddy-o on 2009/04/09
•WTF???
So Dave...thought you were going to keep your polital views to yourself!
posted by: mark on 2009/04/09
•PAR 3?!!!
How is this a par three? If no one can make par...
posted by: Kirsten on 2009/04/09
•what country is that down there?
looks like africa to me.
posted by: mainstreet on 2009/04/09
•Unbelievable
. Wasn’t this about golf? Holy crap people!! Save your political views for a different place. Honestly no one really cares what you think. We all have our on political views, as we should and we should respect that. This is a really cool golf hole and it would an awesome experience to play it if you love golfing. .
posted by: Relax!!! on 2009/04/09
•WTF???
Seriously, where does this political crap come from? IT'S GOLF , PEOPLE... not nuclear warfare. Yes, the hieght is dizzying, but so is the political commentary, which has NOTHING to do with golf.GROW UP CHILDREN!!!Signed,A Canadian with more brains than the epople who voted Bush Jr. in in the first place!
posted by: Dave on 2009/04/09
•Hate to be a Spotter!
If the balls are to hard to follow off the clubs, how are these spotters able to see them coming? Seems like hard hats would be in order! And as for all the political crap, I have'nt trusted a politician since Nixon! And what does that say for the rest of those bums?
posted by: Shirtpope on 2009/04/09
•Error?
The Clinton administration made substantial errors as well, no question about it. He should take his lumps on bin Laden as well as Bush. What really infuriates me about Clinton is that his decision making capacity was clouded by his in-office peccadilloes. As I recall, he avoided some actions against bin Laden because he was afraid of being accused of trying to "divert" attention away from his scandals. That said, I just don't accept the conservative line that Bush has kept us safe. He has done quite the opposite, imho, for reasons already stated and a whole lot more.
posted by: drboba on 2009/04/09
•Error
drboda, It's fun to bash Bush, but you seem to have forgotten that Bin Laden was offered to Clinton and he refused to take him. That was during his administration
posted by: Dave on 2009/04/09
•Idiots think for a change?
OFF TOPCIC: One of the biggest myths of George Bush is that he kept us safe. His apologists always count from 9-11, conveniently forgetting the fact that his administration was warned about Bin Laden. His administration demonstrated little interest in the radical Muslim threat until 9-11. How can I make this clear: he and his administration ignored warnings from multiple sources, basically laughing them off. And what did he do after 9-11? He followed Bin Laden's plan for 9-11 and got us embroiled in mid-east war, instead of doing the smart thing, launching an all out limited strike in Afghanistan and Western Pakistan. (After the attack we had the sympathy of the world to be able to pull this off.) Even Bin Laden was surprised when Bush & Cheney attacked Iraq. But Bin Laden took good advantage of Bush and Cheney's profound foreign policy misadventure. Iraq became a great training ground for Al Qaeda as well as a great recruiting tool. And now a former secular country, with a bad leader (one of many in this world), has become a fundamentalist Islamic state at the cost of 4000 young American lives and a trillion dollars. Christians are leaving the country in by the thousands to escape persecution, and close to a million have been purged from their homes. Meanwhile, the radical Muslim nuts who attacked us remain basically alive and well in the hills of Western Pakistan. The Taliban gains more and more control of Afghanistan. Way to go Bush/Cheny, mission accomplished - for Bin Laden. What a frickin' joke that whole crew was.
posted by: drboba on 2009/04/09
•WOW!!!
That is amazing i wish i can do that my dad "tutors" me in golf so i bet i can puul it off...NOT!!!
posted by: Alexzandria Matthews on 2009/04/08
•Idiots ..".think" for a change
How apathetic we Americans are. chastise Bush...haven't you slept safely since 9-11? And the financial economy .. goes way into Clinton years .. brains are for thinking!
posted by: The Thinker on 2009/04/08
•Heights
Being severly afraid of heights I doubt very much if I would want to try this hole.However It really does look interesting.
posted by: Ron Thayne on 2009/04/08
•Golfing Obama supporter
I am a physician. I make a good living. I play golf, sometimes, even in high priced resorts. And I am an Obama supporter. Come to think of it, I think I saw news reports of Obama playing golf. In Hawaii no less. (Maybe he was just sizing up the course for a housing project.) This whole business of Obama support as the equivalent of anti-golf is a dumb strawman argument. For every "elite" golf club, there are dozens of public courses or semi-private courses where one can go and play golf, spend 4 hours outside, challenging oneself, walking, enjoying comraderie with fellow golfers for about the same price of a dinner and a movie. And as far as the anti-"elistists" out there are concerned: The richest golfer in the world today grew up in modest household (retired military), learned to play golf in his garage and on public courses. For the "elitist" and "trvial" police, where does it end? Movies are trivial, lets get rid of them. Any mountain biker who spends $2600 dollars on a top of the line Specialized ** trivial and elitist. You have 2 kids, and live in a 3 bedroom house. How elitist. You should live in a one bedroom house. The kids can sleep in the living room. Thing of all the energy you'll save. Oh yes, maybe we need to go through the entire gamut of human activity and decide what is trivial and unnecessary and what is not. That's the ticket!
posted by: drboba on 2009/04/08
•hjgj
fgjd uguyhv t fkhv
posted by: gkhuig on 2009/04/08
•Are you people serious??
Obama v Bush...Isaac Newton...class envy?! Geez, get off the internet, get off the couch, get off your self-indulgent soapboxes, get a club and most importantly, get a life!
posted by: Realist on 2009/04/08
•Real Role Models
As far as I am concerned, pro golfers are the only real role models out there for kids today. Also, htye donate tons of $$$ to charity!!
posted by: Lady Golfer on 2009/04/08
•to stupidos
You may not be poor, but to work that hard and hand over $40K to the crapheads in DC and vote for Obama means you are an idiot.
posted by: 7wood doesit on 2009/04/08
•Fun...
Can you guys let life be fun? This is what life is all about when it doesn't affect another human soul. Let it be what it is. It is FUN!
posted by: Hurricaneduane on 2009/04/08
•to view
click on the bottom box or go to you tube and visit padrad's 830-meter par three
posted by: horsey on 2009/04/08
•can't view the video
can't view the video
posted by: smignone on 2009/04/08
•Safety ?!
I wouldn't think that a 1400ft fall is survivable. Is there some kind of belt harness ? Or maybe just a con.
posted by: Tricep on 2009/04/07
•It offers solutions...
If George W. Bush were to run for office again...I know where I'd take him golfing.
posted by: Pegleg on 2009/04/07
•heliogolf
Could this be the start of helicopter golf? Feeswould be about the same!
posted by: sisco on 2009/04/07
•Have fun
Beter be careful the ball is comeing DOWN
posted by: john on 2009/04/07
•No thanks
It would be a complete waste of time just getting there let alone playing golf...
posted by: www.johnathanvrozos.ca on 2009/04/07
•Astromath vs Joe Ballistics
Astro.Math is Joe Ballistics full of crap or are you?How much would the ball have plugged when it landed?
posted by: boppin benny on 2009/04/07
•what fun
now that's a fly ball
posted by: sharon on 2009/04/07
•video doesn't work
I have tried to view thru this website
posted by: JWILLIE on 2009/04/06
•Nice Hole
I would ace it if I played it.
posted by: Petercheeks on 2009/04/06
•Handycap Flag
Can I get a Handycap flag for the chopper so as to get close to the green after my drive? I have a little trouble walking.
posted by: Limpie 2009/04/ 06 on 2009/04/06
•Let Me Guess... posted 04/01
April Fools
posted by: MadDog on 2009/04/06
•COOL
I don't care how you are, that is cool.
posted by: Birdy boy on 2009/04/06
•Oh boy..that's high.
I'm a lady golfer..not a dyke..and if I could hit my driver far enough I would love to play this hole...the edge is a little scary though. And for all you guys who think you could make the green with a six or seven iron, take a look at the pros who were using DRIVER...duh, get over yourself. The politicos should shut up and quit complaining about how much water it takes to keep a golf course green. Golf has done more for charities than lots of other sports. And for the physics buffs..who cares. What a hole.
posted by: 19hndicpr on 2009/04/06
•Paris Hilton
Looks like one "expensive hole" to play.....
posted by: Snake on 2009/04/06
•You negative people suck
I thought this is a pretty cool hole. I think any true golfer would like to try it. All you politicos get over it, I vote for Obama, am in my early 30's, work 60 hours a week and pay over $40,000 in income tax.. So not every Obama supporter is bum.
posted by: to stupidos on 2009/04/06
•WTF?
Why don't the friggin' video work??
posted by: Arnold Palmer on 2009/04/06
•Spend Spend Spend
Obama should try golf, bowling is not his sport. He does love to spend, and I agree our previous President spent way way too much.
posted by: GM Magic on 2009/04/06
•Arrogance
Those arrogant bastards, is there nothing they won't dig up for that stupid sport?
posted by: David on 2009/04/06
•topshot
CRIKEY!!!! the V in Pro V does mean vertigo !!!
posted by: andy w on 2009/04/06
•Dont bother
One thing is for sure on this par 3 - you don't need to yell four! as no one will be able to hear you anyway :-))
posted by: Peter on 2009/04/06
•FABALOUS
My son Mike would love this.
posted by: JOE KOCIAN on 2009/04/06
•d-bag cigarjack
god i miss bushie and cheney. what a comedy team!
posted by: anncoultersnuts on 2009/04/06
•Job Opening
To all you Obama voting, class envy, unemployed losers, there are several job openings as a greenside spotter. Sorry, no protective shelter that could have been used by a poor squatter or effective head gear constructed from high tech materials by the military industrial machine. Just your headfull of mush to provide a divot for my Pro V-1.
posted by: cigarjack on 2009/04/06
•A waste
I love golf, but I really hate it when those who are so involved in the game try to show that it is only for a certain few, the elite. This course displays the same stupidity as the courses developed in the desert. There we find courses that demand huge volumes of water to maintain, at the expense of all others. It is an arrogance and selfishness beyond measurement.
posted by: rcegg on 2009/04/05
•amazing
great for Patrick should have a hole like this at the Masters!!
posted by: Bob on 2009/04/05
•SKIP
Can you just play the 19th hole and skip the first 18th? I bet you not.
posted by: jelvis on 2009/04/05
•Minniemousie! you an idiotMinniemousie! you're an idiot!
PGA golfers have done more for charities & starving children in this world than any other sport. What have you done lately ....B**ch?
posted by: atch71 on 2009/04/05
•Minniemousie! you an idiot
PGA golfers havedone more for charities starving children than any other sport. What have you done lately ....*****?
posted by: atch71 on 2009/04/05
•who gives a ****
golf sucks
posted by: maddoghd on 2009/04/04
•who gives a ****
Golf Sucks
posted by: maddog on 2009/04/04
•Amazing
It's wonderful to see on video, Must be a wonderful experience in person. Totally AMAZING. Congrates Padre
posted by: Ranch Lakha, Atlanta, Ga on 2009/04/04
•A fade and a backspin**-
Looks like a 9-iron, but walk it, carry your own bag, and no heli; otherwise it's just like #7 at Coral Canyon.
posted by: joe yak on 2009/04/04
•live
live a little
posted by: reuben on 2009/04/04
•ball mark?
What kind of ball mark does this leave and how far buried in the sand if you miss the green? Hmmm
posted by: TonyD on 2009/04/04
•26 seconds is about right
According to the website 'Hyperphysics' the terminal velocity of a golf ball is only about 50 feet per second (yes, less than for a skydiver). Using 2 reasonable assumptions and basic kinematics I estimate a total time to impact of 30.5 seconds. The first assumption is the ball gains 20 feet of altitude from the initial stroke; the second assumption is that it reaches its terminal with no other factors involved. The initial rise of 20 feet takes the ball 1.1 seconds. Then the ball starts downward and achieves terminal velocity in about 1.6 seconds. During this 1.6 seconds it drops about 40 feet. So it starts at 1410, climbs to 1430, then drops to 1390 at which point it is at terminal velocity. It then takes 27.8 seconds to fall the rest of the way. Total flight time would be 30.5 seconds.It's surprising that the terminal velocity of a golf ball is so low (50 fps), but the website 'Hyperphysics' is very trustworthy, so if it says 50 fps, that's probably right.
posted by: Astro.Math on 2009/04/04
•starving and playing gold
...methinks those who damn this hole ( because there are so many starving people) have, like me, been unable to master their 7 iron. Lighten up, laddies!!
posted by: Murray on 2009/04/04
•MinnieMoussie! is a man-hating, bull-dike lesbian
Because only a man-hating, bull-dike lesbian would say something so stupid.After all why do we do anything when there are poor starving people around the world. We should probably all live in tents and give away everything we own to help everybody in the world. Well excuse me, but some of us are just selfish ****s that actually want to enjoy life a little bit...
posted by: Sick of politically correct idiots on 2009/04/04
•Fox Hopyard
The par 3, No 4 perhaps, at Fox Hopyard in CT is a long drop.
posted by: CPT HW/Billy on 2009/04/04
•men - are- idiots
Only men could create such a situation and pretend that it mattered in a world where people are in need aaand children are sying of starvation each day.
posted by: Minniemousie! on 2009/04/04
•The Shot Heard from Texas to Mexico
I played the 19th hole at Lajitas Golf Course that went from Texas to Mexico and did not even use a helicopter.
posted by: Holeinjuan on 2009/04/04
•Idiotic
This is not golf, it is sheer stupidity. DELETE.
posted by: JC on 2009/04/03
•Thanks drboba
You put the right "spin on the ball" in your comment. Looks like "not a golfer..." is also not one who understands basic economics. Haven't we heard about enough from those who like to continually engage in class envy? Social engineering has never worked and never will, no matter whose top dog is running it. We need more freedom, liberty and free enterprise. Oh, yeah ** I guess we were just talking about a silly game of golf, right? Kudos to the Safari golf club and those happy souls who enjoy playing there!!
posted by: Major Duffer on 2009/04/03
•West Texas Mountains
I meant to say the 19th hole at the Midland CC in Midland, Texas.
posted by: Weenie on 2009/04/03
•West Texas Mountains
This looks just like the 19th hole in Midland, Texas! Piece of cake!
posted by: Weenie on 2009/04/03
•GIMME
Any ball on the green is a gimme.
posted by: Birdie on 2009/04/03
•phweee
This sure beats our little golf course at Acton, Ontario.
posted by: Peter Sellar on 2009/04/03
•To far to walk
Hang Gliders would benice after the tee shot
posted by: Pappy on 2009/04/03
•Dimples
Anyone ask Callaway what the dimple design does to all of these math calculations you all argue about? LOL
posted by: Dan on 2009/04/03
•Dumb
dumb
posted by: duffer on 2009/04/03
•The elite...
...might gain the intelligence and forsight to invest their resources (land, job creation...) in the society's ability to actually support itself and benefit the world's economy and long-term survival, vs. the elite's own exclusive short-term amusement.
posted by: NOT a golfer and couldn't POSSIBLY understand (thank God) on 2009/04/03
•terminal velocity
Must not be any engineers posting yet, so I'll take a crack. Terminal velocity is the speed at which a falling object stops accelerating when dropped from rest. Or, simply put, when the force due to gravity is equal to the force due to aerodynamic drag. You can factor in buoyancy too, which is kind of a pain... Anyway, according to my calculations, a golf ball's terminal velocity is ~81 mph. Density is a factor, but more importantly, a objects size, shape, and mass will be the determining factors in its terminal velocity.
posted by: beej on 2009/04/03
•Just Jump
If they were real men, they would base jump to the green. Only woosies would take the chopper.
posted by: Ragnar on 2009/04/03
•You're joking, right?
With a screen name like "i like fizziks" you should really have at least a rudimentary knowledge of the science before you say something as ridiculous as "...density is pretty much the only factor determining which objects fall faster than others."Isaac Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation states that all matter attracts other matter to it through the force of gravity. The theory's Universal Gravity Equation defines the force of gravity as a function of the masses of the objects and the distance between them. Applications of this equation can show the force of attraction between two objects. It can also be shown that the Universal Gravity Equation is the same as F * mg, if certain assumptions are made.Nowhere does Newton's equation take into account the volume of an object, which would be needed for any discussion of density.The acceleration of any object in a vacuum is exactly the same, if the objects are accelerated by the same force (gravity, in this case.)Air resistance will have an effect on terminal velocity, but if there were no air, a styrofoam ball and a bowling ball would fall at the same rate if dropped from the same height.Get out your high school physics book, and refresh your education.
posted by: Joe on 2009/04/03
•Nice course
A lot prettier than Rockland!
posted by: Bird on 2009/04/03
•More on physics
A golf ball's terminal velocity would be less than that of a human, not more. Leaving aerodynamics out of it (by that, I mean how the shape of the object affects its drag), density is pretty much the only factor determining which objects fall faster than others. Even if you consider aerodynamics, the difference between golf ball and human is really negligible compared to density. So yea anyway, 26 seconds doesn't sound far-fethed at all, considering the first few seconds are lift. (I hope that nobody really thinks that all objects in air fall at the exact same speed)
posted by: i like fizziks on 2009/04/03
•hey kenny...
... the only thing a six iron would be ueful for on that hole is beating away the snakes and lions that live just about where your ball would land! Me, I can't wait to play the hole - it's just a bit of fun.
posted by: Golf Cynic on 2009/04/03
•mulligans anyone ?
let's see, is the wind left to right, or right to left, or up or down, could it be with us or in our face,get me there with my 6 iron
posted by: kenny g. on 2009/04/03
•Look out below!
And I thought dropping a dime off the "empire state building" would do damage!
posted by: s.grear on 2009/04/03
•For the elite?
Let's get rid of the golf course. And fire everyone who works there: the maintenance people, the cooks, the groundskeepers, the caddies, the security people, the engineers, the waiters, the housekeepers, the janitors, and all the other employees. Yeah, that's the ticket. I'm sure everyone who is employed at the club will be glad all those elite golfers are outta there! And all those who benefit from the charitable events that are usually associated with tournaments and the Tour - I'm sure they will just as thrilled to see the club bulldozed.
posted by: drboba on 2009/04/03
•Gravity
Kyle, no, not a piece of paper due to air resistance), but on a relatively windless day I would say that YES, a regular golf ball and a 500 pound golf ball would fall at the same rate of speed. And in a vacuum a 500 pound golf ball and a feather would fall at the same rate of speed. Bottom line is the relationship between the force of pull and the object's inertial compensates exactly so that all objects fall at the same rate.
posted by: Steve on 2009/04/02
•Backward engineering
My guess is this hole is an exercise in reverse engineering. Professional golfers drive around 280 to 320. By figuring out the physics, they could figure out where to put the green so the average pro could hit it with the driver. The green looks to be at 40 - 60 yards long.....
posted by: drboba on 2009/04/02
•Women's Tee Box
Yes there is a women's tee box. It's about 100 feet forward of the men's.
posted by: Luverman on 2009/04/02
•Falling speed
...things fall at the same rate if they are in a vaccum. in the atmosphere the rate at which things fall is determined by a myriad of factors.
posted by: Einstein on 2009/04/02
•Calling it like I see it?
"objects fall at the same rate regardless of weight, height and aerodynamics...common knowledge"...what the hell...how can you drop a stone and a crumpled piece of paper from a decent height (not 10 cm) and expect them to hit the ground at the same time?!?...is the equation for gravity not m*g...so if you drop a 500 lb golf ball from that cliff at the same time as a normal golf ball...your telling me that they would hit at the same time?
posted by: kyle on 2009/04/02
•Belgar says
I compete only with myself. I appreciate the game for its physics, its high level of skill, its self control and, of course, its spirituality. (a quote from Belgar Conehead from the movie "Coneheads". I think the wind would come into play somewhere along the journey. Also, maybe someone should try to sell them a chair lift, similar to what you see at ski resorts. Maybe more safe and much more quiet.
posted by: Philip on 2009/04/02
•For the elite
Golf once again demonstrates that it is basically a pastime for the rich, the self styled elites. Shame on the game for the excess,in a country, and on a continent, so rife with desperate poverty
posted by: Michael on 2009/04/02
•Hey Cheese
You should know whhat you are talking about before going after someone...objects fall at the same rate regardless of weight, height and aerodynamics...common knowledge. Learned it in 3rd grade. Aerodynamics affects flight distance not falling speed. Drop a stone and a crumpled piece of paper and they land at the same time. Now make like a tree and get the f outta here.
posted by: Calling it like I see it on 2009/04/02
•What?
i cant view the video only see the picture. any advice?
posted by: julio on 2009/04/02
•26 seconds update
Hey Dick the Dork... "ll physics men knowledgeable in the laws know that, from Sir Isaac Newton the rate of fall for any object is exactly the same, 32ft/sec/sec regardless of weight."That's in a vacuum you tool. Think about this word... aerodynamics.
posted by: PwrOfCheese on 2009/04/02
•Lets see #1 play it
It would be nice to see.TAGGER play this hole.
posted by: john j. mccue on 2009/04/02
•Dear neknalla
The current rate is not even R2000!!!! Once in a lifetime experience worth every cent.
posted by: Riaan on 2009/04/02
•26 Seconds hang time
Joe Ballistics comment that a golf ball would fall faster than anything else is totally rediculous. All physics men knowledgeable in the laws know that, from Sir Isaac Newton the rate of fall for any object is exactly the same, 32ft/sec/sec regardless of weight.
posted by: Dick the Dork on 2009/04/02
•Dear Sad
You would find it interesting to know that a great sum of money is donated to childrens homes every month by the owner of this dream!!!!
posted by: Riaan on 2009/04/02
•Club?
Byron, watch the video champ. They hit driver.
posted by: Observant on 2009/04/02
•Sir Barkley
I want to see Charles Barkley play this hole.
posted by: High Handicapper on 2009/04/02
•Boggey
The last time I played this hole I over swung, lost my balance, fell over the cliff, and only boggeyed it.
posted by: Norm Par on 2009/04/02
•PGA rules: WALK
If you cannot walk during a round of golf...then it is not REAL golf...
posted by: warhawk on 2009/04/02
•DAMN!
All that math and physics accounted here falls short of the genius who designed that hole.
posted by: Mario, on 2009/04/02
•Shut Up
Hey sad, did you know that pro-golf tours give more to charity than all the other pro sports put together? Didn't think so or else you'd just SHUT_UP!
posted by: John on 2009/04/02
•Take the Money and Feed Someone
This is everything that gives golf a bad name. Amazing sure... Excessive, absolutely. Take the money you spend on jetfuel and feed an entire community in SA's poor areas for a year...
posted by: sad on 2009/04/01
•math
re skydiver comparison - you aren't taking into account the horizontal energy and distance travelledre: injuriesthey are in no more danger than being hit with a drive off the tee. I would imagine terminal velocity of a golf ball is less than or eqaul to the velocity of a struck ball.
posted by: DickVMI on 2009/04/01
•How much?
How much would it cost the average golfer to play this one? I have to imagine the helicopter ride alone would cost $1,000. That's one expensive hole!
posted by: neknalla on 2009/04/01
•HAH!
Crazy!
posted by: Max on 2009/04/01
•Awesome
Gimmick or not this is freaking awesome and any true golfer would love to play this hole.
posted by: Adam on 2009/04/01
•Pin Position is critical!
I can't see sucking it back with a driver ;-( its gotta be a hit and stick to ever get a 2 on this bad boy.
posted by: Gord on 2009/04/01
•How long does it play.
Does anyone know how long the hole plays? What club do the pros hit here and what distance would they normally hit that club?
posted by: thom3321 on 2009/04/01
•Gasp, Gasp
Do they have Senior Rates at this course? Extra charge for oxygen bottle?
posted by: Woodman on 2009/04/01
•damage
Do they pass out shovels at the tee box to fix your ball mark?
posted by: Paul on 2009/04/01
•what an awsome hole
I would love to play this hole. (but with a bucket of balls)
posted by: MDS on 2009/04/01
•The cart
It would suck to fall out of the golf cart
posted by: Barry Brendemuhl on 2009/04/01
•Dangerous
The guys down below should they get hit with one of the balls I think it could do some serious damage traveling at 1000 ft/sec plus. With its weight it could possibly kill someone. Oh yeah, Sir Isaac Newton above is an idiot.
posted by: Nicolaus Copernicus on 2009/04/01
•Davisian
I would have sex with that hole.
posted by: Fluffy Bundle of Love on 2009/04/01
•10-12 secs?
With all your fancy math, your forgetting that backspin would cause the ball to counteract gravity...
posted by: Jeff on 2009/04/01
•26 seconds?
Trajectory? Lift, Drag, Thrust, Gravity? Can’t compare a "projectile" to an object dropped. "900ft/second squared" is correct, but only for a falling object in normal atmosphere.
posted by: Sr. I. Newton on 2009/04/01
•club?
no one has asked what club did Padraig hit? How many shots prior to hitting the green did he take to figure out which club will reach the green?
posted by: Byron on 2009/04/01
•26 seconds?
The claim that the ball has 26 seconds of "hang time" defies physics. A skydiver falls the first 1000 feet in about 10 seconds and after that reaches terminal velocity of 1000 feet every 4-5 seconds. A golf ball would fall more quickly due to its more streamlined profile. But I'll spot you the difference and use the falling skydiver's wind resistance. Assuming that a towering drive hit by Tiger Woods, for instance, takes about 2.5 seconds to reach an apogee 600 feet higher than the tee.(I'm being very generous! I don't think for a minute that any player, even Woods, could hit a shot that high.) And adding that to the 1,410 foot tee elevation, the golf ball would hit the green about fourteen seconds after apogee and no more than 16 or 17 seconds after launch.I'm thinking that on average the hang time is more likely a bit less than 10 seconds, and probably no more than 12 seconds.
posted by: Joe Ballistics on 2009/04/01
•Holy bat dung Robin
I got queasy just looking at the video
posted by: Bullet Bob on 2009/04/01
•Big wow
I play every hole pretty much like that, but then I seldom par.
posted by: Gabby on 2009/04/01
•Next stop, Halfdome
Will we see Yosemite's Halfdome with a tee box? Let the golfers scale the face hauling their clubs for that one.
posted by: gsquid on 2009/04/01
•stupidity
people have too much money and time...what nonsense
posted by: bob on 2009/03/31
•wow
wow
posted by: stud on 2009/03/31
•Wow
Holy Cow
posted by: Jamie on 2009/03/31
•Women Golfers
Is there a tee box for women? I'd love to play it, but can't hit the ball that far.
posted by: 83 yrs old and still trying. on 2009/03/31
•venersnitzel
uten grleiten glaten globen!
posted by: ryan on 2009/03/31
•James is an idiot
you wouldn't find your 20th ball you dork
posted by: hunglow on 2009/03/31
•Nevis golf
The black tee for the last hole at the Four Seasons in Nevis is a 250 yard carry across a gorge. Most high handicappers cannot make it. As a 8, I did it but barely.
posted by: david on 2009/03/31
•VAIL GOLF COURSE
There is just such a hole in Vail Colorado's Golf Course; only you ride to the top in a cart.
posted by: R J Riordan on 2009/03/30
•OUCH!
Certain death if you decide to wave the faster players through on this one.
posted by: Beau on 2009/03/30
•Unbelievable
Can't wait to go play this one. All I need to know is where is the first tee and what is the course record.!!!
posted by: Sooner1 on 2009/03/30
•Padraig's Par
OK fellahs....I was told from a Golf tour coordinator who sets up tours around the world that Padraig was the 1st person to par this hole, and since then, it has been done by a few others. The director also told me to save up a house payment to play the hole, and it is the "playoff" hole, not included in your regular $380 USD round of golf, but can be "had" for a price.Quite the accomplishment CG NSM!Dean in IL.
posted by: Dean on 2009/03/30
•WHEW
WHEW,WHEW,WHEW,WHEW
posted by: Robert M.Bulach on 2009/03/29
•The Experience at Koele's 8th
On my last trip to Maui, I had one of those amazing days. I took a high speed hydrofoil from Lahina harbor across to Lanai watching wales on the way. The deal was $177 (many years ago) and included the boat, lunch and the round of golf on the only Bentgrass greens in Hawaii at the time. The course is the Experience at Koele. It was designed by the notable Greg Norman and fairway architect Ted RobinsonThe eighth hole is Koele's signature. Called the most spectacular in Hawaii it is a 396 yard, par 4 with a 250 foot elevation drop through ravines wooded with pine, koa, and eucalyptus. It is a very odd feeling trying to line up even a fairway from 250' up, I can't imagine this par 3. I hit driver well but it seemed lame as it went out normally and then just fell, and fell, and fell after it lost forward momentum. I was in the first cut just off the right side 151 out. Hit a 8 iron on and two putted. Really cool hole, the entire "experience" is highly recommended.
posted by: Golfintarheel on 2009/03/28
•Demko can do!
The long club of Todd demko will certainly eagle this baby!
posted by: slacker on 2009/03/25
•Mulligans?
Imagine hitting a provisional and finding out you need to return to the tee because they found your first one in the junk! I wonder if there is a drop area at the bottom of the cliff.
posted by: James on 2009/03/18
•good shot
thats taking golf to new and " dizzyying " heights
posted by: rouven on 2009/03/13
•First visit, second attempt
I was there for the media launch and went up twice... First time in the bunker and made 4... Second attempt hit driver to around Namibia and 2 putted... I have the shirt to prove it!!
posted by: CG NSM on 2009/02/25
•Award Winning Hole
This is no gimmick and is completley playable. Winner of best new golf hole in the world last year if you are any kind of golf lover weather a purist or just a nut you have to do this. It realy plays like a golf hole.
posted by: Golf Nut on 2009/02/24
•ongelooflik!
Dit sal ek nog graag wil meemaak - 'n gelukhou sal 'n bonus wees
posted by: johan raubenheimer on 2009/02/24
•Hey CG NSM...
Was that on your first attempt? I phoned the guys at Legend and they say that Padraig is the only person to have parred the hole... And by the way, everyone, this is the 19TH HOLE we're talking about - not part of the actual course...
posted by: Golf Cynic on 2009/02/24
•Been there done that
Hey Guys, I have been lucky enough to play this hole and believe you me it is incredible. The sight from on top of that mountain is something to behold and the shot, well, intimidating but not the worst. I did hit it on the green and two putted... Still is the course record!!
posted by: CG NSM on 2009/02/24
•Got to have balls!
What are the odds of hitting the green? A bit way out if you ask me!
posted by: golfnut on 2009/02/23
•Speed up
can u imagine how the guys who have to finish a round in 4 hours 20 minutes will feel abut this hole
posted by: digger on 2009/02/23
•But wait, that's not all...
Hey, purist, if you think the 19th is gimmicky, wait til you see what the course is all about - all 8 holes designed by a different tour player!!! Imagine how big the greens would be if Hayes was asked to build a hole... :)
posted by: Golf Cynic on 2009/02/23
•When can I go?
Yeah, it might be a gimmick, but it still looks like an awesome experience! Hate to think what it must cost though.
posted by: craig on 2009/02/23
•Gimmick
Sounds rather gimmicky to me. Course designers have become so desperate they will come up with anything to get people to their golf courses these days.
posted by: Purist on 2009/02/23
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